Wednesday 12 October 2016

HMRC's Statutory Guidance For Societies


Section 887 of the Income Tax Act 2007 requires registered societies (co-operative societies and community benefit societies) to make annual returns to HM Revenue and Customs (HMRC) of any payments of interest, dividends, bonuses or other sums. The return must be made within 3 months after the end of the society’s accounting period.

The guidance starts off in a promising and professional manner, unfortunately it then rather falls apart:
"We’ll only except files in this format."
Does no one proof read these things before publication?

This does not give one a feeling a of confidence in the professionalism and competence of HMRC.

Tax does have to be taxing.

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9 comments:

  1. Indeed it does not give one a feeling of confidence in the professionalism and competence of HMRC. They are an amateur acting place with such vast resources that senior management enjoy away days at Arsenal & Chelsea and such mistakes are unacceptable. Clearly grammar, or rather basic competence, are not a necessary prerequisite for employment with HMRC. While accepting that there are some decent, skilled & professional staff, too many are not (e.g. they recently lost a letter sent to them recorded delivery they are so appalling - and that's just one case), and from what I understand on here those more professional staff are frowned upon while for those who participate in the nasty bullying culture, play bingo, tell lies and master the dark arts of cover ups the 'HMRC world' is their oyster. Its such a vile environment, which goes against both the public interest or any human decency, that those who want to get on should get out. A shambles of a place.

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  2. Bullying is HMRC's forte. Sadly basic standards are more a challenge. Is it a sick joke about HMRC's away days at Chelsea and Arsenal? However much would that cost I wonder? If there is any evidence that's it for real, I will write to the Head of the Civil Service to report an apparent misuse of public funds and demand investigation. We are in a time of austerity don't they know and as a taxpayer I am fed up with wasteful spending. I am happy to pay taxes but in return I expect HMRC to treat my hand outs to them with a little respect.

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  3. In the lands of the North, where the Black Rocks stand guard against the cold sea, in the dark night that is very long the Men of the Northlands sit by their great log fires and they tell a tale … and those tales they tell are the stories of a kind and wise king and his people; they are the Sagas of Noggin the Nog.

    Noggin would not have stood for the sort of behaviour exhibited by HMRC management.

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    1. I can't say a good word about HMRC management, they bring the whole thing into disrepute. It would shock Joe Public.

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  4. The thing with HMRC and its management is this. If you are an able and hard working employee they can literally make up a performance issue with no objective evidence and try to force you out. There is no rule of law & no right to appeal, they will not allow the truth to get in the way once you're targeted - they are total thugs and it seems criminal.

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    1. Any workplace bully is a cowardly thug - those who 1)pursue such conduct 2) those who standby or support it and 3) those who cover it up when in any public sector organisation, should face criminal prosecution to send a message out that such behaviour will not be tolerated. Now that Theresa May confirms the Conservatives are the workers party perhaps the Government need to investigate and make changes.

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    2. Not being a legal expert, I wonder whether the criminal offence of Misconduct in a Public Office could be used to prosecute any public sector employees who engage in bullying, or covering it up, or being otherwise dishonest? This would surely bring justice to victims and send a message to such people that as employees in the public pay we expect high standards of behaviour to set an example across society. Until all the existing laws are considered to bring prosecutions, I can't see the culture changing.

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  5. STOP the no doubt EXPENSIVE HMRC away days at famous football stadiums and instead use public money to pay for staff to study GCSE English. Or if they stopped the bullying culture they might find a greater talent pool to select from in the first place.

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  6. I have no doubt (and I mean NO doubt) as to the validity of the majority of criticisms raised against HMRC on this site. Problem is, very little as regards the perps being brought to book ever seems to happen.
    I was considering emailing all MPs, drawing their attention to this site, and asking why a full and forensic investigation of HMRC has not taken place. What do people feel? Any point?
    At the very least. they can't then say they are unaware of what's going on.

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